Post by aurabass on Aug 21, 2012 4:59:30 GMT -5
When Linda Kelly stood before the public on Nov 7 with pictures of Tim Curley and Gary Schultz beside Jerry Sandusky and read the horrific charges against one and perjury charges against the other's you may not have decided that Tim and Gary were guilty of perjury.. But that made it easy for Louis Freeh to further prejudice us with his report saying Schultz tried to hide a "secret file" or leaking email that supposedly supported the claims of the prosecution.
Would this kind of thing be required if this case is as incriminating as Freeh insists? I know it's difficult but try to put the crimes of Sandusky out of your mind along with the Attorney General's press conference and focus solely on the report of Louis Freeh to arrive at an opinion of it's truthfulness and validity on it's own. The perjury trials in January are a long way off so we have some time to work on what we are calling The Freeh Fiction. This is another chapter in that effort - based on thin to non-existent evidence Freeh uses to make outrageous claims.
85 year old Joe Paterno is questioned about a decade past 10 minute meeting and uses 4 words "fondling" and "a sexual nature" to describe everything Freeh has along with a Tim Curley email mentioning a discussion with "Joe". The honorable coach who dedicated 60 years to Success With Honor and The Grand Experiment that resulted in 85% of his players receiving degrees at Penn State suddenly became a pariah. The media, public and the Board of Trustees have decided this absurd Freeh Report's conspiracy theory is valid?
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The simplest explanation of the actions taken by Joe Paterno, AD Tim Curley, VP Gary Schultz and Pres. Spanier are the most logical and reasonable. Joe heard whatever Mike had to say in 10 minutes and decided to turn it over to Tim and Gary. That was the right thing to do. Joe did what he thought was appropriate because he, like Mike's father and Doctor, was not sure of what to do given the vague and muddled 2 second glance observations and 3 slapping sounds in a 45 second locker room visit.
If Joe actually recalled the words Mike says he used in that 10 minute Saturday meeting or if he asked Mike to refresh his memory sometime prior to his Grand Jury testimony is in question.But it's totally clear that Joe passed on his impression and Mike to Tim Curley and Gary Schultz exactly as he should have.
Gary Schultz and Tim Curley took two different tacks with the information and divided the responsibility for evaluating the McQueary report and offering their evaluation to Dr. Spanier who had to make the decision.
Gary immediately got Wendell Courtney to research the law on reporting suspected child abuse and sought to find out if the file on the 1998 incident that resulted in the inquiry that cleared JS of criminal or sexual impropriety was still available.
Tim set out to further discuss the meeting with Joe and to get Jerry Sandusky's explanation prior to setting up a meeting with Mike to get his version first hand and reporting the decision and the report to Dr. Jack Raykovitz of The Second Mile.
Schultz was obviously aware of the inquiry and conclusion in 1998 and he would probably have informed Tim that Jerry was the subject of a complaint in 1998. It seems reasonable to assume that neither Tim or Gary believed that Sandusky was involved in pedophile behavior. The transcript of the Grand Jury testimony of Tim Curley on page 189 shows he was asked about knowledge of "sexually inappropriate activity" by Sandusky in 1998. Tim answers NO to this question and the follow up because 1) the report he may have heard was not sexually inappropriate according to the conclusion or 2) he did not hear anything about 1998. If the 2nd is true it appears that email used in the Freeh Report has been manufactured.
Curley and Schultz's opinion of Sandusky was common at Penn State and in the community. Sandusky was the founder of the successful Second Mile Charity. His book TOUCHED had just been released in Jan of 2001. Sandusky raised 7 foster children. He was the Defensive Coordinator at "Linebacker U" and acclaimed as the best assistant coach in NCAA college football. He was a church going community leader who had been honored by Pres Bush, Sen Santorum and many top people in state government for his work in support of underprivileged kids. This is not the resume of a pedophile.
However the PSU administrators were concerned about his seeming blind spot regarding these workouts and showers with young boys. Not because they believed they were "sexual" but because it had resulted in the 1998 inquiry and now this report by Mike McQueary. They believed that Jerry was setting himself up for criticism and possible harm to The Second Mile because he appeared to be unaware of the atmosphere in the country about sexual abuse of young boys by Catholic Priests. People were apt to leap to the "wrong " conclusions that did not know Jerry and his nature. These men did not believe Jerry the Saint could be a pedophile and they knew this kind of thing would eventually harm The Second Mile.
Curley & Schultz likely thought Jerry was too attached to his kids in the most benign and non sexual way and that these fears about the propriety of his workouts and showers would come as a shock to him. So telling him he could no longer bring these boys to PSU for the workouts and showers would be a blow because for Jerry it was the ultimate treat for some fatherless boys who were so excited and pleased about the opportunity to work out in the same place their football heroes did. This is what is meant by "humane" and getting Jerry help in understanding the situation.
These men perhaps wanted to save Jerry and The Second Mile the embarrassment of an investigation because Mike McQueary did not see anything sexual. What he relayed to them was easily explainable as similar or identical to the 1998 bear hugs for Schultz who is the one of the three that for certain knew of the 1998 investigation. Tim and Dr. Spanier may have only known that a mother had complained about the shower and never saw 1998 as a criminal investigation or an investigation of anything "sexual".
There was no need to cover this up for Penn State's sake. Sandusky had been gone from the coaching staff for over two years. This problem was a Second Mile problem and they had no desire to harm the charity. They knew that any implication that the Second Mile was founded by a potential pedophile would effectively kill it. So they decided to tell Jerry that he could no longer bring these boys to the PSU facilities and to inform Dr. Jack Raykovitz of their decision.
Dr. Raykovitz was a child psychologist. He had the training and staff to look into Jerry's behavior and to speak with boys that Jerry had befriended to see if there was something amiss. Informing Raykovitz was the right thing to do. He would work to see that Jerry was handled in order to save the source of his income from embarrassment or destruction. As a psychologist he would know who to contact to see that Jerry got help with this problem of not realizing the potential for disaster in his behavior.
The decision seemed to work very well for the next 10 years as far as they knew. Sandusky was never again caught in a shower at PSU with a boy and life went on. Joe Paterno was not disappointed with their solution. Mike McQueary was fine with this solution, and The Second Mile evidently handled the situation to Jerry's satisfaction and to theirs. They had no reason to recall the 10 minute meeting with Mike or to even think about this incident again until they were subpoenaed by the Grand Jury to appear a decade later. Even then they had no reason to believe that Penn State, Joe Paterno, or themselves would be targeted for charges or trial based on what they had heard from Mike or what they had done to take care of the matter. They had informed Sandusky's employer who was qualified to discern any problem involving child abuse IF there had been any child abuse.
This was never a question of anything sexual to them and despite what 85 year old Joe said to the Grand Jury the acceptance of their solution by both Joe and Mike seems to suggest they were never convinced that Sandusky was involved in any sexual behavior. We agree with most of you that Joe and Mike would have been more proactive if they really suspected that a boy had been raped or sexually molested.
Earlier posts in this series on the Freeh Fiction dealt primarily with the weak to non-existent case against Joe Paterno and the PSU administrators in 1998. This edition takes on Freeh's fantasy about 2001
SEE WEBSITE FOR LINKS TO THESE BELOW
K. I. S. S. Keep it Simple - 1998 Did Joe Know Ver...
Analysis: Coach is NOT believed to be Paterno
Freeh Lied About 1998 and Here's The Proof
More ALTERED EMAIL? Blowing Up the Freeh Fiction
Altered E-mail Found in Freeh Report Contains Dama...
PROOF - HOW FREEH FRAMED JOE PATERNO
First lets look at the only things in Freeh's Fantasy about Joe Paterno.
First is the email from Tim Curley supposedly sent on on page 24 of the report, Freeh quotes Curley as saying. This is from the summary.
"after giving it more thought and talking it over with Joe [Paterno] yesterday." Curley now proposes to tell Sandusky "we feel there is a problem" and offer him "professional help."
But on page 74 of the report, Freeh quotes Curley as saying. This is the whole quote.
On Tuesday, February 27, 2001, Curley emailed Schultz and Spanier:
I had scheduled a meeting with you this afternoon about the subject we discussed on Sunday. After giving it more thought and talking it over with Joe yesterday-- I am uncomfortable with what we agreed were the next steps. I am having trouble with going to everyone but the person involved. I think I would be more comfortable meeting with the person and tell him about the information we received. I would plan to tell him we are aware of the first situation. I would indicate we feel there is a problem and we want to assist the individual to get professional help. Also, we feel responsibility at some point soon to inform his organization and [sic] maybe the other one about the situation.
On Wednesday, February 28, 2001, at 7:12 p.m., Schultz responded to Curley's proposal for dealing with Sandusky. Schultz wrote to Curley and Spanier:
Tim and Graham, this is a more humane and upfront way to handle this. I can support this approach, with the understanding that we will inform his organization, with or without his cooperation (I think that's what Tim proposed). We can play it by ear to decide about the other organization.
On Wednesday, February 28, 2001, at 7:12 p.m., Schultz responded to Curley's proposal for dealing with Sandusky. Schultz wrote to Curley and Spanier:
Tim and Graham, this is a more humane and upfront way to handle this. I can support this approach, with the understanding that we will inform his organization, with or without his cooperation (I think that's what Tim proposed). We can play it by ear to decide about the other organization. hh
The "other organization" mentioned by Schultz appears to be a reference to the Department of Public Welfare. The first situation appears to be the 1998 reports of the bear hug showers. Does this mean Curley was aware of the Police/DPW/CYS investigation or did he simply know that a mother had been concerned by Jerry showering with her son and some inquiry had been made that resulted in no criminal or pedophile behavior being found so no formal investigation was required? He did not necessarily know of any "criminal" complaint or inappropriate "sexual" complaint - simply a complaint about the showers.
Continue Reading HERE 2001 Freeh Framing continued
Would this kind of thing be required if this case is as incriminating as Freeh insists? I know it's difficult but try to put the crimes of Sandusky out of your mind along with the Attorney General's press conference and focus solely on the report of Louis Freeh to arrive at an opinion of it's truthfulness and validity on it's own. The perjury trials in January are a long way off so we have some time to work on what we are calling The Freeh Fiction. This is another chapter in that effort - based on thin to non-existent evidence Freeh uses to make outrageous claims.
85 year old Joe Paterno is questioned about a decade past 10 minute meeting and uses 4 words "fondling" and "a sexual nature" to describe everything Freeh has along with a Tim Curley email mentioning a discussion with "Joe". The honorable coach who dedicated 60 years to Success With Honor and The Grand Experiment that resulted in 85% of his players receiving degrees at Penn State suddenly became a pariah. The media, public and the Board of Trustees have decided this absurd Freeh Report's conspiracy theory is valid?
The simplest explanation of the actions taken by Joe Paterno, AD Tim Curley, VP Gary Schultz and Pres. Spanier are the most logical and reasonable. Joe heard whatever Mike had to say in 10 minutes and decided to turn it over to Tim and Gary. That was the right thing to do. Joe did what he thought was appropriate because he, like Mike's father and Doctor, was not sure of what to do given the vague and muddled 2 second glance observations and 3 slapping sounds in a 45 second locker room visit.
If Joe actually recalled the words Mike says he used in that 10 minute Saturday meeting or if he asked Mike to refresh his memory sometime prior to his Grand Jury testimony is in question.But it's totally clear that Joe passed on his impression and Mike to Tim Curley and Gary Schultz exactly as he should have.
Gary Schultz and Tim Curley took two different tacks with the information and divided the responsibility for evaluating the McQueary report and offering their evaluation to Dr. Spanier who had to make the decision.
Gary immediately got Wendell Courtney to research the law on reporting suspected child abuse and sought to find out if the file on the 1998 incident that resulted in the inquiry that cleared JS of criminal or sexual impropriety was still available.
Tim set out to further discuss the meeting with Joe and to get Jerry Sandusky's explanation prior to setting up a meeting with Mike to get his version first hand and reporting the decision and the report to Dr. Jack Raykovitz of The Second Mile.
Schultz was obviously aware of the inquiry and conclusion in 1998 and he would probably have informed Tim that Jerry was the subject of a complaint in 1998. It seems reasonable to assume that neither Tim or Gary believed that Sandusky was involved in pedophile behavior. The transcript of the Grand Jury testimony of Tim Curley on page 189 shows he was asked about knowledge of "sexually inappropriate activity" by Sandusky in 1998. Tim answers NO to this question and the follow up because 1) the report he may have heard was not sexually inappropriate according to the conclusion or 2) he did not hear anything about 1998. If the 2nd is true it appears that email used in the Freeh Report has been manufactured.
Curley and Schultz's opinion of Sandusky was common at Penn State and in the community. Sandusky was the founder of the successful Second Mile Charity. His book TOUCHED had just been released in Jan of 2001. Sandusky raised 7 foster children. He was the Defensive Coordinator at "Linebacker U" and acclaimed as the best assistant coach in NCAA college football. He was a church going community leader who had been honored by Pres Bush, Sen Santorum and many top people in state government for his work in support of underprivileged kids. This is not the resume of a pedophile.
However the PSU administrators were concerned about his seeming blind spot regarding these workouts and showers with young boys. Not because they believed they were "sexual" but because it had resulted in the 1998 inquiry and now this report by Mike McQueary. They believed that Jerry was setting himself up for criticism and possible harm to The Second Mile because he appeared to be unaware of the atmosphere in the country about sexual abuse of young boys by Catholic Priests. People were apt to leap to the "wrong " conclusions that did not know Jerry and his nature. These men did not believe Jerry the Saint could be a pedophile and they knew this kind of thing would eventually harm The Second Mile.
Curley & Schultz likely thought Jerry was too attached to his kids in the most benign and non sexual way and that these fears about the propriety of his workouts and showers would come as a shock to him. So telling him he could no longer bring these boys to PSU for the workouts and showers would be a blow because for Jerry it was the ultimate treat for some fatherless boys who were so excited and pleased about the opportunity to work out in the same place their football heroes did. This is what is meant by "humane" and getting Jerry help in understanding the situation.
These men perhaps wanted to save Jerry and The Second Mile the embarrassment of an investigation because Mike McQueary did not see anything sexual. What he relayed to them was easily explainable as similar or identical to the 1998 bear hugs for Schultz who is the one of the three that for certain knew of the 1998 investigation. Tim and Dr. Spanier may have only known that a mother had complained about the shower and never saw 1998 as a criminal investigation or an investigation of anything "sexual".
There was no need to cover this up for Penn State's sake. Sandusky had been gone from the coaching staff for over two years. This problem was a Second Mile problem and they had no desire to harm the charity. They knew that any implication that the Second Mile was founded by a potential pedophile would effectively kill it. So they decided to tell Jerry that he could no longer bring these boys to the PSU facilities and to inform Dr. Jack Raykovitz of their decision.
Dr. Raykovitz was a child psychologist. He had the training and staff to look into Jerry's behavior and to speak with boys that Jerry had befriended to see if there was something amiss. Informing Raykovitz was the right thing to do. He would work to see that Jerry was handled in order to save the source of his income from embarrassment or destruction. As a psychologist he would know who to contact to see that Jerry got help with this problem of not realizing the potential for disaster in his behavior.
The decision seemed to work very well for the next 10 years as far as they knew. Sandusky was never again caught in a shower at PSU with a boy and life went on. Joe Paterno was not disappointed with their solution. Mike McQueary was fine with this solution, and The Second Mile evidently handled the situation to Jerry's satisfaction and to theirs. They had no reason to recall the 10 minute meeting with Mike or to even think about this incident again until they were subpoenaed by the Grand Jury to appear a decade later. Even then they had no reason to believe that Penn State, Joe Paterno, or themselves would be targeted for charges or trial based on what they had heard from Mike or what they had done to take care of the matter. They had informed Sandusky's employer who was qualified to discern any problem involving child abuse IF there had been any child abuse.
This was never a question of anything sexual to them and despite what 85 year old Joe said to the Grand Jury the acceptance of their solution by both Joe and Mike seems to suggest they were never convinced that Sandusky was involved in any sexual behavior. We agree with most of you that Joe and Mike would have been more proactive if they really suspected that a boy had been raped or sexually molested.
Earlier posts in this series on the Freeh Fiction dealt primarily with the weak to non-existent case against Joe Paterno and the PSU administrators in 1998. This edition takes on Freeh's fantasy about 2001
SEE WEBSITE FOR LINKS TO THESE BELOW
K. I. S. S. Keep it Simple - 1998 Did Joe Know Ver...
Analysis: Coach is NOT believed to be Paterno
Freeh Lied About 1998 and Here's The Proof
More ALTERED EMAIL? Blowing Up the Freeh Fiction
Altered E-mail Found in Freeh Report Contains Dama...
PROOF - HOW FREEH FRAMED JOE PATERNO
First lets look at the only things in Freeh's Fantasy about Joe Paterno.
First is the email from Tim Curley supposedly sent on on page 24 of the report, Freeh quotes Curley as saying. This is from the summary.
"after giving it more thought and talking it over with Joe [Paterno] yesterday." Curley now proposes to tell Sandusky "we feel there is a problem" and offer him "professional help."
But on page 74 of the report, Freeh quotes Curley as saying. This is the whole quote.
On Tuesday, February 27, 2001, Curley emailed Schultz and Spanier:
I had scheduled a meeting with you this afternoon about the subject we discussed on Sunday. After giving it more thought and talking it over with Joe yesterday-- I am uncomfortable with what we agreed were the next steps. I am having trouble with going to everyone but the person involved. I think I would be more comfortable meeting with the person and tell him about the information we received. I would plan to tell him we are aware of the first situation. I would indicate we feel there is a problem and we want to assist the individual to get professional help. Also, we feel responsibility at some point soon to inform his organization and [sic] maybe the other one about the situation.
On Wednesday, February 28, 2001, at 7:12 p.m., Schultz responded to Curley's proposal for dealing with Sandusky. Schultz wrote to Curley and Spanier:
Tim and Graham, this is a more humane and upfront way to handle this. I can support this approach, with the understanding that we will inform his organization, with or without his cooperation (I think that's what Tim proposed). We can play it by ear to decide about the other organization.
On Wednesday, February 28, 2001, at 7:12 p.m., Schultz responded to Curley's proposal for dealing with Sandusky. Schultz wrote to Curley and Spanier:
Tim and Graham, this is a more humane and upfront way to handle this. I can support this approach, with the understanding that we will inform his organization, with or without his cooperation (I think that's what Tim proposed). We can play it by ear to decide about the other organization. hh
The "other organization" mentioned by Schultz appears to be a reference to the Department of Public Welfare. The first situation appears to be the 1998 reports of the bear hug showers. Does this mean Curley was aware of the Police/DPW/CYS investigation or did he simply know that a mother had been concerned by Jerry showering with her son and some inquiry had been made that resulted in no criminal or pedophile behavior being found so no formal investigation was required? He did not necessarily know of any "criminal" complaint or inappropriate "sexual" complaint - simply a complaint about the showers.
Continue Reading HERE 2001 Freeh Framing continued
